and a person who believes that like that, doesn't separate his religion from his scientific faith, don't you have a problem with that person talking to them? >> i wonder why -- why do we care what -- >> why does he say that? why doesn't he say i believe in science? just say it. >> why do we care about what any politician -- >> because we talk about global warming and things like that. you would like to think you can start from a common basis believing in a scientific method. or else not. if you don't, then how do you have a conversation? >> i don't even see the link between the two. i happen to not know how old the earth is and -- >> governor, you again, because i don't know -- i'd like -- if i saw a doctor and on his wallet said imaginative design or some theory, i would say i wish you had taken biology in school just to start or organic chem. start with the basics. >> i'm all for science. >> but, matt, it does matter, matt, because on the issue of global warming, most of the people in the republican party and a number of tea partyites deny the science which is absolutely clear and, of